Post by dando127 on Nov 12, 2021 6:47:57 GMT
Green and Gold
Kicking off a summer project and have the need for a black belly pan to go on a 98 MXZ chassis. Had my eye out for a black take off/parts sled with no luck. Looks like I’m going to be painting a yellow one; a compromise at best.
Ski Doo shop manual says the pan is polyethylene (PE). Pan itself is molded with a PP tag, which would indicate its polypropylene. Conventional wisdoms suggests PP will hold paint/primer, PE less so . Anyone ever see anything which indicated the pans were indeed PP vs PE?
Anyone out there ever paint the pan of an S-2000? Success/failure?
Thanks
Bones
Sure can`t help you with paint suggestions G&G, but....A bit strange....The 97 Doo shop manual says the "S" pan is Polyurethane but the 99 Doo manual says the "S" pan is polypropylene I really think they are the same material ??
Bones
Green and Gold
Thanks Bones, your snow melted yet?
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I perused a few shop manual sections of the 97/98 models and they list a few different belly pan materials. Seems strange; hard to imagine they’d spec out different plastics, but who knows.
Other possibility is the tech writer was in error; I’ve encounter that in other non-snowmobile materials. Gotta believe that the marking in the pan (PP) are more indicative of what’s actually there.
One of my MXZs has a cracked hood, and found a good replacement (no cracks) but severely sun faded. It needs paint, so decided to give it 70s F/A color scheme. Can’t decide between the 73/74 or the 75 look. The former has white in the mix, the latter is basically black/orange. The design of the 98 hood lends itself to the 75 idea, but I’m partial to the 73 look with white in the mix.
Need the rest of the sled to match, so got the yellow stripped off the chassis, bulkhead and trailing arms; the last two replaced with black. Thinking about a 85/86 formula pattern for the trailing arms; sort of a swooshy orange to yellow rectangle design.
Also discovered the 20 yo seals on my paint guns are failing-------and of course have been discontinued by the mfgr. Doomed for eternity to search for obsolete parts.........
Bones
Oh yes Al, snow has been gone for quite some time. Was actually kinda cool for a while ( below norm) but lately its been above norm, too dang hot for me. I patiently wait for the -30 days of January
I like the idea of a "S" hood / sled in the F/A colour scheme
I can`t wait to see it. So...…You are starting to think the "S" chassis sleds are a nice ride/power but still want the 70s look huh
Paint guns seals obsolete, the never ending search for discontinued parts hey, that's what makes things interesting.
Bones
Green and Gold
Got the trailing arms done. They have that 70’s look. Should have made the white accent line smaller, but they’ll do.
Hood is taking longer than anticipated. Kudos to whoever came up with the glue used on these decals, because they’d have never peeled under normal use. Hot hair dryer barely softened the adhesive even though the hood itself was getting pretty hot. Decals wouldn’t peel back using a plastic scraper. Only choices were to switch to a heat gun or razor blade; went with the latter as I figured I could really screw up the hood using excessive heat. Taking a long time and will have to deal with a few razor blade gouges in the hood. So added at least two more steps. Not happy with myself about that.....
Kicking off a summer project and have the need for a black belly pan to go on a 98 MXZ chassis. Had my eye out for a black take off/parts sled with no luck. Looks like I’m going to be painting a yellow one; a compromise at best.
Ski Doo shop manual says the pan is polyethylene (PE). Pan itself is molded with a PP tag, which would indicate its polypropylene. Conventional wisdoms suggests PP will hold paint/primer, PE less so . Anyone ever see anything which indicated the pans were indeed PP vs PE?
Anyone out there ever paint the pan of an S-2000? Success/failure?
Thanks
Bones
Sure can`t help you with paint suggestions G&G, but....A bit strange....The 97 Doo shop manual says the "S" pan is Polyurethane but the 99 Doo manual says the "S" pan is polypropylene I really think they are the same material ??
Bones
Green and Gold
Thanks Bones, your snow melted yet?
?I perused a few shop manual sections of the 97/98 models and they list a few different belly pan materials. Seems strange; hard to imagine they’d spec out different plastics, but who knows.
Other possibility is the tech writer was in error; I’ve encounter that in other non-snowmobile materials. Gotta believe that the marking in the pan (PP) are more indicative of what’s actually there.
One of my MXZs has a cracked hood, and found a good replacement (no cracks) but severely sun faded. It needs paint, so decided to give it 70s F/A color scheme. Can’t decide between the 73/74 or the 75 look. The former has white in the mix, the latter is basically black/orange. The design of the 98 hood lends itself to the 75 idea, but I’m partial to the 73 look with white in the mix.
Need the rest of the sled to match, so got the yellow stripped off the chassis, bulkhead and trailing arms; the last two replaced with black. Thinking about a 85/86 formula pattern for the trailing arms; sort of a swooshy orange to yellow rectangle design.
Also discovered the 20 yo seals on my paint guns are failing-------and of course have been discontinued by the mfgr. Doomed for eternity to search for obsolete parts.........
Bones
Oh yes Al, snow has been gone for quite some time. Was actually kinda cool for a while ( below norm) but lately its been above norm, too dang hot for me. I patiently wait for the -30 days of January
I like the idea of a "S" hood / sled in the F/A colour scheme
I can`t wait to see it. So...…You are starting to think the "S" chassis sleds are a nice ride/power but still want the 70s look huh
Paint guns seals obsolete, the never ending search for discontinued parts hey, that's what makes things interesting.
Bones
Green and Gold
Got the trailing arms done. They have that 70’s look. Should have made the white accent line smaller, but they’ll do.
Hood is taking longer than anticipated. Kudos to whoever came up with the glue used on these decals, because they’d have never peeled under normal use. Hot hair dryer barely softened the adhesive even though the hood itself was getting pretty hot. Decals wouldn’t peel back using a plastic scraper. Only choices were to switch to a heat gun or razor blade; went with the latter as I figured I could really screw up the hood using excessive heat. Taking a long time and will have to deal with a few razor blade gouges in the hood. So added at least two more steps. Not happy with myself about that.....
